Over on Ye Olde Tumblr, I've been finding a lot of deathrock-y fashion photos. Which, of course, fills me with nostalgia and the mad urge to incorporate Olde Skool deathrock & batcave elements into my Cupcake Gothic Victorian wardrobe.

An example: hey ElderGoths! Remember when we used to all wear layers and layers of artfully shredded tights? http://gothiccharmschool.tumblr.com/post/1075695307/ill-have-you-know-it-takes-a-lot-of-work-to-get

Which got me thinking about the intersection of Olde Skool and new media, and about how the "edgier" side of the mainstream fashion industry has recently been all aflutter over deconstructed looks*. This led to some googling, and hey, look what I found:

http://www.cutoutandkeep.net/projects/shredded-tights

Yes, a tutorial on how to artfully shred hosiery. I'll admit it, I read it, went "D'aaaaaaaw!", and then giggled. All right, and I spent part of last night attacking a pair of black stockings with some nail scissors, but I was going to be doing that ANYWAY.

It really does look like there's some sort of batcave revival going on, which just tickles me no end. Some Tumblr blogs of what I'm seeing:

http://gothfashion.tumblr.com/
http://welldressedfortheapocalypse.tumblr.com/
http://deathwaves.tumblr.com



* If you listen closely, you can hear the Stroppy One and the Infamous BlueJay grinding their teeth. They both hate deconstructed fashion with a burning intensity. I think it can be done very well, especially for photo shoots, but that usually in real life, it looks less like a fashion statement and more like someone doesn't take very good care of themselves or their clothes.

From: [identity profile] corbaegirl.livejournal.com


I think the deconstructed look works the best when you start out with something you love and can't bear to give up just because it rips, gets stained or whatever, and then go from there. That being said, I do admit to "helping" the aging process along on occasion. I hate and detest brand-new, pre-distressed clothing, especially leather.

From: [identity profile] tinkerbell86ca.livejournal.com


Same here. It can look rather . . . cheesy? a little off? fake? ugly? take your pick.

From: [identity profile] corbaegirl.livejournal.com


For me, store-bought deconstruction or aging looks fake. Maybe that's just hanging around bikers when I was younger, where the aging on your jacket was a badge of honor, and having pre-aged leather was considered faking it.

From: [identity profile] cupcake-goth.livejournal.com


Oh, store-bought deconstruction just baffles me. Which is why when I see razored tights and leggings being sold for $60, I shake my head. (And laugh at the people who buy them.)

From: [identity profile] girlgoth.livejournal.com


Personally, I don't care for the all over deconstructed look myself. I think it can look very messy and unkempt (like goth grunge *heh*).

I do think, however, that oftentimes the look *can* be pulled off if one piece (article of clothing, shoes, accessories, hair, makeup, etc) is done to perfection, making the rest look like it was done *on purpose*.

From: [identity profile] cupcake-goth.livejournal.com


Yes, one deconstructed item per outfit, so it is a deliberate effect, instead of "Look, I just crawled out of the donation bin behind Goodwill and then fell down a lot".

From: [identity profile] icprncs.livejournal.com


Intensive deconstruction just says "Thompson Twins 1982" to me. Some things I'm not willing to revisit. ;)

I'm learning to love the "multiple layers of tights" look, but now I prefer it be done with sheer textured tights (not only fishnets) over color, rather than laddering solid ones. It's just more elegant and purposeful.

From: [identity profile] cupcake-goth.livejournal.com


I need to find more sheer textured tights, because I've always been a big fan of layers and layers of them.
Edited Date: 2010-09-08 02:11 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] jola.livejournal.com


dude, the batcave revival was about 7-5 years ago ... this maybe is the re-revival?? Personally i love it, it takes some style to NOT look like a deathrock baglady, true, but it can be done.

From: [identity profile] cupcake-goth.livejournal.com


Maybe this is a post-punk revival? I dunno. I'm just seeing a lot of things referencing big hair, heavy eyeliner, torn fishnet, and motorcycle jackets.

I agree, the look can be done with style. I just haven't seen a lot of examples of that. YOU, however, are one of them. (And I still covet that Bauhaus corset you made. ::siiiiigh::

From: [identity profile] satellite6.livejournal.com


WellDressedForTheApocalyse is one of my favorite tumblrs!

I think this really is the RE-revival, but to me the look is more pulled together this time around. I have to admit I'm being influenced by the death rock as well. I have yet to attack a pair of stockings with a nail clipper BUT I did give in to the urge for a black death-rockish jacket this week. *snort* Love layers, love tights. I have some lace-y ones left over from last year so now I'm playing around with layering those over solid-colored ones.

From: [identity profile] cupcake-goth.livejournal.com


Oooh, which jacket? I have recently acquired a black stretch twill "moto" jacket, which I am planning on wearing with frilly skirts and lace blouses.

From: [identity profile] satellite6.livejournal.com


Mine is black stretch twill, too! It's by Doki Geki and I won it on eBay. I'm so glad I can give up the search now, lol. Can't wait to see pics of you in your jacket because I think it will be PERFECT with lace blouses and skirts.

From: [identity profile] spitecandy.livejournal.com


Holy crap but I am agreeing with most folks here. I do like it but a) when it happens by accident or love and It seems to work best if you dont use more than one bright color, if indeed, you require bright colors. I am against gutter if you really are gutter. freakin wash already. salt marks on hats and sweat stains are not good.

2) I dont like anything that looks like youre trying to hard. We especially used to say that about Docs. Its ok to have new ones but dont scuff them on purpose or it looks like you fall down a lot. I scuffed my shoes at Park City but only because drunk people were helping me walk down stairs in a dress where I could not see my feet. no, I was not drinking.

as for the layered tights, after a while, Im too fat to get one size. the top layer has to be bigger if I go more than two layers.

From: [identity profile] cupcake-goth.livejournal.com


Cut 'em off and turn them into stockings! Layers and layers of shredded stockings!

From: [identity profile] dark-phoenix54.livejournal.com


Those pictures make me very wistful and happy at the same time.

From: [identity profile] i-fart-bats.livejournal.com


awwww. i have about five pairs (yes, five. omg) of torn up fishnets/tights that i layer often in the fall/winter (well, mostly not-so-boiling-disgustingly-hot summers here in FL, UGH, get me back north!!) and i often get stopped and complimented. shocking, i tell you. SHOCKING.

also, am i the only person who wore layers upon layers of skirts? my "signature" outfit from the late 90's was about three long skirts layered upon each other, some form of black top with ruffles, and a turquoise-y blue velvet hip-length blazer. (of course, with the perfect accessories that involved lots of lace and pewter)

ps - there's a total babybat in my school. i want to take her under my proverbial (bat?) wing!

From: [identity profile] cupcake-goth.livejournal.com


Yes, layered skirts! Black rayon with embroidery and mirrors on the hem, red or purple silk, and black lace were some of my standard layers. With a fitted black cotton knit top (or a bodysuit, oh lord), and a black velvet blazer or my motorcycle jacket. And big hair, layers of torn fishnets, and a gazillion necklaces and bracelets.

From: [identity profile] shinotenshi02.livejournal.com


Semi-unrelated to the original topic...

ps - there's a total babybat in my school. i want to take her under my proverbial (bat?) wing!

I wish there'd been someone to take ME under 'wing' as it were. I denied the darker part of myself for many years, for fear of being ostracized again and being called a 'poseur' (and thus scaring off people who COULD help me learn) throughout school. It wasn't until I got a computer in '99, and started to research on my own, that I started getting at all comfortable and confident enough to try and explore my inner goth becoming my outer-goth.

(Not so incidentally, The Lady of the Manners helped a lot, with her advice on the internet. ^^)

I can't speak for everyone, but I know I'd have enjoyed someone reassuring me when I was a young baby-bat, and helping me learn.

From: [identity profile] satellite6.livejournal.com


*tee hee* Oh, the days when I could layer skirts.
I do plan to layer one of my striped skirts under a dress, but I have to be careful with that stuff these days. I do not need an extra bulk - ha!

From: [identity profile] requieminblack.livejournal.com


I'm right with ya. There will always be a special place in my heart for Ye Olde deathrock shreddy clothes. I too spent many a Saturday night back in the day attacking my tights with a pair of scissors. Ahh memories.

From: [identity profile] iwishihadwings9.livejournal.com


I must admit I still have quite a few erm, deconstructed items in my closet. For right now, however, that is where they will be staying. But thank you for the Tumblr links, I'm new to it (cupiovolare.tumblr.com) and I definitely followed a couple you linked to. Love them!

From: [identity profile] snowcoma.livejournal.com


I got into the deconstructed look by 1) being very poor, and 2) having a friends puppy rip a hole in the outer layer of my favorite gauze skirt and realizing I kinda liked it that way. It was second-hand to begin with, so I didn't really have to do anything to it for it to "deconstruct" all on its own. The under-layer, a black cotton, has remained perfectly intact for years, and if I wear it now, I am modestly covered and have tatters of gauze that blow oh-so-prettily in the wind.

I like looking like a faerie-tale princess who has seen battle.

That said, the all-over ripped look is very hard to do correctly, and is something that I feel is best left for talented people on special occasions. I prefer my skirts tattered and my tops pristine.


From: [identity profile] hecubot.livejournal.com


Deathrock + Cupcake Goth = Stylish Miss Havisham?

You could totally work that (ripped) seam.

From: [identity profile] karen-dp.livejournal.com


I enjoyed checking out those links! I guess I was a post batcave proto goth back in 1985. I was really into Bauhaus, Fad Gadget and Love and Rockets back then and have recently gotten into Rozz Williams (the California scene never reached us in Montreal, I guess...). There is a healthy Deathrock community here in Toronto as my bass player is one. A couple of years ago he rescued an old Bauhaus shirt that I bought in 1991 and still wears it, although I expect it will turn to dust at any moment-deconstruction in action! I thought I had a goth band, but people are telling me it's deathrock band...I guess I can live with that!
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