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cupcake_goth Feb. 4th, 2010 02:42 pm)
cupcake_goth Feb. 4th, 2010 02:42 pm)Remember! This coming Sunday, myself and oodles of other talented people will be vending at the Mourning Market! 12-5PM at Club Motor (1950 1st Ave Seattle, WA 98134). I will be selling the Gothic Charm School book, art prints from the book, hand-embroidered "cranky" bloomers, and stripy heart brooches. Come on by and say hello!
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Yes, I have been thinking about a second Gothic Charm School book. (Because I ... have too much free time? Something like that.) An obvious subject for me to expand upon would be fashion, because hello, I like talking about clothes. (I'm considering including a few tutorials, but I'm leery of treading over well-worn ground that others such as Voltaire have covered.)
Which leads to my question! What sort of things would you like to see in another Gothic Charm School book? Tell me in the comments. Brainstorming is fun!
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Yes, I have been thinking about a second Gothic Charm School book. (Because I ... have too much free time? Something like that.) An obvious subject for me to expand upon would be fashion, because hello, I like talking about clothes. (I'm considering including a few tutorials, but I'm leery of treading over well-worn ground that others such as Voltaire have covered.)
Which leads to my question! What sort of things would you like to see in another Gothic Charm School book? Tell me in the comments. Brainstorming is fun!
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And as for Voltaire, the classics are never out of style ('sides, you can reference that work and get some of the baby bats to go look him up - not ALL of those who identify as goth as well read as you, m'dear ;>)
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http://www.amazon.com/What-Goth-Voltaire/dp/1578633222/ref=sr_1_21?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1265324930&sr=8-21
:)
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I will note, after a quick perusal of some of their material, that I suspect they would reach two rather different audiences just from style of prose...
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I agree with the corporate goth thing, I struggle to combine my work look and normal look together without looking like a crazy bat lady.
If you do another book would you do sighned editions on the gothic charm school website for us who like outside the states? (I is geeky)
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-The corp goth. More details on wardrobe, desk decor, dealing with coworkers, etc.
-LOOK THROUGH YOUR READER QUESTIONS. No really. What do you get asked about the most frequently?
-DIY. make your own necklaces, add your own trim, various different tips and tricks for easily modifying a clothing item to tailor it better for your tastes. Bulk trim... getting inspiration from historical references... Trying things out and not being afraid...
-I, honestly, think it would be fun if there was not just a DIY chapter but a chapter of recipes as well. You could include your ginger bats, I can give you my recipe for violet shortbread, and you could even include drink recipes.
-Makeup tips. More details.
-a dreadful thing but a chapter on self esteem and the goth. Be who you want to be, why that's okay, etc. I know you get a lot of questions about this.
-Embarrassment and Social Faux Pas - How to conduct yourself with grace in the midst of drama, calamity, or wardrobe malfunctions. How to best prepare against major calamities (like carrying safety pins, a small comb, a mirror, lipstick, or whatever else may be needed on a moments notice).
Didn't we do an outline that things got pulled out of when you started the first one? I remember there was a good deal of brain storming at the time and some things were set aside.
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But I love your response. Very awesome. XD -is still chuckling.-
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Corporate goth and stuff for male goths in general would be fantastic, I haven't seen very much of that, and I'd love to see goth home decor stuff- I liked Paint It Black but I was through it in ten minutes, which made me a bit sad after paying so much for it. I've seen and gotten great use out of Gothic Martha Stewart, but I'd definitely like to see more on that subject...
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- More on fashion, including possibly some basic pattern instructions (yes! you CAN convince them to sew!)
- Makeup tips for goths of a certain age
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Sorry if this is incoherent. It has been a long, long week. I might be able to clarify later. Much later.
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And on that note, when you do the next book, I would love to see more fashion stuff because it's always more fun to read about something that someone loves and with you it was shows. As far as the tutorials go, it would be fine I think. For one, you have different skills and tricks than anyone else out there and sharing them is always good. It might be that you have a way that someone else might not have thought of or something like that.
And finally, this is a good idea. For as much as there are books about Goth culture, there's not enough and yours is fun. We need more.
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I do like the suggestions on Home Decor. Yes, Voltaire covered it (and yes, for some unknown reason I own two copies of Paint It Black - go figure), but it was more of breeze through than a comprehensive how-to.
DIY... A lot of my inspiration comes from tutes from other places, for other genres, leaving me to apply my own delicate colour adjustments... :)
The suggestion of going through your questions is a good one as well...
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Home Decor
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And also yes yes yes to the cooking, drink-mixing, gardening ideas. I heartily agree with the folks who were sad to finish the first.
It might be worthwhile (though I could be wrong) to spend a little concentrated time on "Yes, You Are Goth Enough." It was scattered throughout the first one, but people like myself, subdued goths, can always stand to hear it again.
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The parenting thing could also spin off well into a "how to integrate your life and your gothiness" chapter. So many of your readers seem to think that when they sign up, they have to stop going to church, give up Star Trek, and never dream about being a Disney princess again (or whatever their particular deal is). Tips on how to be a good observant whatever and be goth, reassurance that you can love X and be goth, and a bit on parenting gothily--but with the understanding that your kids may not follow in your footsteps--would be great topics.
(One of my favorite stories is of my sister going to the beach on a very sunny SoCal day and spotting a goth couple dressed to the nines, right down to their steel-toed boots, standing there. Just as she was starting to wonder why they were braving the Orb, a little blonde girl in pink ran up to them saying, "Mommy Daddy look I found a shell!" I wanted to go back and hug them.)
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hehe.. I'll go away now.
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I would absolutely love a second Gothic Charm School book, especially if it focused more on fashion (which is my favorite part of being a goth). And tutorials are always useful! I can use all the DIY tips I can get my black-nailed hands on.
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Home decor would also be a wonderful addition to a second "Gothic Charm School" book. Voltaire's books are nice but give a more dorm room or "my first apartment" look than most older goths may be comfortable with, especially if they have kiddlings running around.
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Some simple craft/diy projects might be fun, too :).
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Personally - this beside the fact that I've seen you write before on the subject - I'd like to see something on *how* an almost 50-something newbie breaks through inhibitions to embrace and express her Inner Goth. Maybe educating myself more on fashion would do it, or maybe it's because my newbie-ness is showing through, but I'm finding taking the initial jump to be highly intimidating (the inner dialog is going "Aren't you a little old for this?"
First steps... how does one take those first steps? That would probably be as relevant for a 20-year-old as for a 50-year-old.
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Related to the fashion idea - Emilie Autumn mentioned in an interview a while back that she kind of thought of her style as being gothic without involving heavy use of the color black. I'm also reminded of an anecdote someone told me of a goth girl she knew at her high school who dressed every day in white, head-to-toe. I'm not sure how you could possibly incorporate that, but it might be something to think about...?
Regardless, I love your first GCS book to bits and pieces and will look forward to a potential second one!
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I think it'd be fun to see a section with event ideas; these could be easily framed around the etiquette of hosting and being a guest. Not necessarily elaborate events - the basics of afternoon tea, picnicking, scary movie night, and so forth. (I've personally always wanted to get together with some friends, get dressed up, and attend one of the local fashion shows that happen here a few times a year, but that's yet to happen.)
It doesn't have to be giving much space, but some words on the importance and fun of DIY are never out of place. Self-empowerment is awesome.
(PS - I recently bought your book and I've really enjoyed it. The content is great, but what really makes it for me are things like the nice paper and cover. I'm a book nerd and so am a sucker for books that are beautiful as well as fun to read.)
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As an offshoot of Corporate Goth--how to dress for an interview?
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And, as an offshoot of Corporate Goth, how to dress for an interview?
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Weddings, Birthdays, Workplace, and so on. A book for each one.
photos! Not just illustrations!
Get some people together and stage photos for the things you discuss. a scene showing a mortified mundane grandmother seeing her grandson's bride in a black dress with skulls for example? Heck, make that the cover...
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I would especially like some articles on how to be tastefully gothic when one goes from being "a goth girl" to being "a gothic woman of a certain age".
We are the first generation of women to grow up in a world where these lifestyle choices were really an option and it up to us to make things easier on the next generation. Tight vinyl isn't always going to be appropriate clubwear, how do we transition to a more mature look and outlook without sacrificing our aesthetics and philosophy.
And stuff like that...you know...stuff.
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- Advice for baby bats first time at a goth club
-Definitely more fashion/make-up and DIY.Fashion tips for all ages.Maybe even throw in some hair style tips.
-Goth weddings
-Goth event suggestions
-people to look to for inspiration
-and like someone else said I'd love to see more of your personal stories/experiances throughout.
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I've often thought that a chapter about plus sized goths would be interesting.
I hope this is the sort of brainstorming you were looking for.
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Maybe tips on dealing in the workplace with people who just dont plain like you?
Or more tips on summer goth clothing, so we dont die if we do brave the orb?
{Clothing does seem to be the way to go.}
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I noticed, at least at this particular club, that like any group of people, we tend to be sort of cliqueish and wary of people who are not in the fold already. (Even, I, who am essentially in the fold and know a lot of people there, have trouble with this.) Could you give a tutorial for those who are new to the scene and shy?
I know you covered this a bit in the chapter in GCS about attending goth events with the do's and don'ts (like "Don't tell someone you love their costume.") But I was thinking more along the lines of conversation starters.
Hope that helps.
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