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cupcake_goth Aug. 1st, 2008 10:58 am)
The cosmetic companies are going with dark colors for autumn. Including Lancome, of all companies, releasing a black lip gloss. One of the people commenting on that blog asked "Is there a way to wear black lipgloss and not look goth?"
In case any of you reading this LJ were wondering the same thing, let me give you a hint: NO. THERE IS NOT A WAY TO WEAR A BLACK LIPCOLOR AND NOT LOOK LIKE A GOTH.
::wanders off muttering about mainstream fashion co-opting things from Goth but mucking it up every time::
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I.E. gtfo my aesthetics, n00b. (not you, them! them!)
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I am so wearing black lipstick in my icon, yes. And you know who makes a great one? Nyx Cosmetics. Mmmmmm. Nyx.
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There is a set of beings that likes black lip gloss.
There is a set of beings that doesn't want to look goth.
Normally, these two sets do not intersect. Can you 'splain it to me?
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"HAHA, YOU DON'T"
It just means dark ruffly shirts are still going to be sold at Mervyn's.
Oh, and to respond to the other commenter: It doesn't make sense in -our- heads, but it's just the way fashion trends go. It's like a continuous tornado that picks up things from here and there, carries them for a while, and then drops it someplace else.
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Actually, I'm going to disagree with you, at least a tad. All healthy cultures assimilate and mainstream from subcultures, and while the mainstreamed reflection often lacks the vitality of the orignal (let us consider the history of rock 'n' roll from Little Richard to Elvis, all the way up through whatever it is frat boys listen to these days) it's still, culturally speaking, a good sign when it happens. Any art form or mode of expression that remains cloistered eventually decays.
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Victor re-reads what he's written above. Realizes he is a giant nerd. Is strangely comfortable with this.
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I approve of your giant nerd-ness!
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Victor, I think you are quite correct. Style mustn't get too inbred.
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1) Use it very sparingly to slightly darken another lip color
OR
2) Wear it for a retro black & white photoshoot, where it can pass for dark red.
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I'm pretty certain those utterly outlandish colors aren't intended to make money; I think instead that they're made purely for PR. A line that puts out a black or blue or dark purple lip color is going to get press for it, and that means their brand will be in people's heads. The brand identification is worth more to them than what it costs to make and market the non-mainstream shades.
(I am also a giant nerd.)
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While it feels a bit like chicanery, I have no problem taking advantage of it.
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Copying is one thing. Copying and being a dick about the original; quite another thing altogether.
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PFFFTTTTTT
Those people are so confused.
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I guess the black is cool as concept makeup, but it's probably totally unflattering on anyone with tan/fair skin because yes, it will look goth. Not that I have an issue with goths themselves, other than that they scare the living crap out of me, but the look is just overall not really a good one for anybody.
I may have to purge more make-up to get more make-up. For whatever reason, though, every time I've tried black lipstick on myself it's just looked... I dunno... wrong... Ah well.
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I really like the way she equates 'unflattering' with 'goth'.
I've discovered that black lipstick looks like crap on me, but works stunningly over red.
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Good to know about the black over red - I'll give that a try. Thanks!
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Isn't that almost all skin?
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There's quite a lot of shades in between fair skin and black skin from all different cultures around the world.
Even of the fair skin variety my fair skin is different than
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but the look is just overall not really a good one for anybody.
but in retrospect that was a little dumb.
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I hope the average normal realizes that black lippies look good on almost NO ONE and that only the palest, truly "winter" skin tone can even remotely get away with it, and even then it has to have the right base color to it (like the purple base in the black Dior gloss.) Even GOTHS know this. Most of us also wear the correct shade of foundation, but I digress...
Wait, I hope they *don't* realize it, so I can laugh at them for doing whatever the mags tell them to, regardless of how retarded they look.
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(Aha, so that's why I keep this icon around.)
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Um, I got distracted by a different shiny...
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No, there isn't. If you're not OK with that, put the lipgloss down and back away from the makeup counter.
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