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([personal profile] cupcake_goth Dec. 20th, 2005 04:29 pm)
So, which should I do? Never shop at my local Fred Meyer* again, or write a politely snippy letter to the manager? Because I'm getting tired of having store security follow me around the store. It apparently never crosses their tiny little brains that the person most likely to steal things is NOT the person dressed in elaborate, difficult-not-to-notice clothing.

I used to be amused by this when it happened. But my patience has worn a bit thin. Plus, since I used to work for the dratted company, I know how store security is supposed to be, which is subtle. The ones at the local store? Not subtle. Not at all.

So. Never set foot in the store again, or write letter? Decisions, decisions ...




*For my not-local friends: Fred Meyer is a local chain of 'variety' stores, much like Target. Target is by FAR the better store. But the local Fred Meyer is 2 blocks from my house, unlike the local Target.

From: [identity profile] icprncs.livejournal.com


I vote letter, stressing your own knowledge of store policy.

But even better would be asking to speak to the manager in person, while they're trailing you.

From: [identity profile] aimeejmc.livejournal.com


Why decide? Do both. In the letter, inform them that you will NOT be shopping in that store again, this is why. And you will be advising your friends not to shop there as well.

Also, contact the store manager. Either by phone or in person or by letter.

From: [identity profile] debg.livejournal.com


I'm all about kicking their collective arses, and teaching them a lesson.

VERY snippy letter to the manager, at the very least.

From: [identity profile] scourgeotheseas.livejournal.com


Ooooh, politely snippy. After all, Fred Meyer is fairly useful for all those things you need when you are too lazy to drive to Target (or is that just me?). And enclose a picture, so that they can use it while training their security "force".

Now I'm sad. I never get followed around my local FM. :(

From: [identity profile] jesseh.livejournal.com


Definitely send the letter, if not both. Quietly stopping shopping there only hurts you.

From: [identity profile] cindywrites.livejournal.com


Yes this. It only hurts you, and other people who don't look or dress in a manner of which the security personnel approves. You have the grace to write a powerful letter, Jilli.

From: [identity profile] recalcitrant-lj.livejournal.com


It apparently never crosses their tiny little brains that the person most likely to steal things is NOT the person dressed in elaborate, difficult-not-to-notice clothing.

Or conversely, if your job is to prevent theft, you may see it as "elaborate, easy-to-hide-things-in clothing".

I get the same store security peeps following me around in QFC. I assumed they were bored, thought I was smuggling stuff out in my coat, etc.

I neither wrote a letter nor stopped shopping there. I just walked to the frozen isle and picked up whatever flavor of Haagen Daas I was after.
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From: [identity profile] gchick.livejournal.com


It really does seem a shame to miss an opportunity for one of the great instances of snippy-polite ever. Be sure to include lots and lots of pointless fashion details -- "I couldn't help but notice that last Thursday, as I was looking for a replacement for my sadly departed 98-cent silicone spatula, your in-store Loss Prevention Professional seemed even more intrigued than usual by my pairing of a velvet riding coat with a striped dupioni overskirt. I am always happy to answer questions about my mode of dress, but I have to wonder if Fred Meyer would be better served by his using his time on the clock to pursue the people who don't want to be seen..."

And then, you know, column.

From: [identity profile] jonquil.livejournal.com


Write them a letter. I'll help you draft it. If you're local, they may well write up a "Do not bother the nice Goth" letter and post it on the timecard.

From: [identity profile] rev-blacky.livejournal.com


I used to get trailed by security at Nordstroms all the time, back when I had a Nordy's card...
Of course, a scary leather wearing, long haired, steel plated/buckled boot wearing hoodlum like myself is obviously a criminal!
It always amused me that they'd trail me all the way to the bill paying area on the third floor, up the escalators, through the lingerie...
It got to the point that I'd turn and wave at them and watch them suddenly be busy looking through the women's undies!
Ah, the good old days, when I acquired a Nordy's card for the sole purpose of establishing a line of credit by buying their mochas...
Anyway, I'd suggest not only writing a letter, but speaking directly to the manager himself, explaining politely the situation...
You are obviously not a person that needs to be bothered!
The smallest item in your wardrobe probably costs more than you are likely to spend in their store on a given day anyway!
(Remember when you and your roomie swapped styles for a day, you being punk ,and she being goth? Ah, what fun!)

From: [identity profile] bork.livejournal.com


Better yet, go shopping with me dressed as a gutter punk, and let me be the 'distraction'!

Seriously though, letter writing, along with personally delivering it, might do the trick.

From: [identity profile] wingedelf.livejournal.com


Call the store director. The security folk are probably just distracted by you, and he'd probably appreciate knowing how they're not doing their jobs and how it makes you feel as a result.

From: [identity profile] icebluenothing.livejournal.com


Take me with you. I'll dress in a suit, or alternately, business casual. While they're following you, I'll rob the place blind, and we'll split the take. Deal?

From: [identity profile] cupcake-goth.livejournal.com


This is a beautiful plan. I am in love with this plan.

From: [identity profile] sistawendy.livejournal.com


The Nibsmother, who's VP of sales for a small hotel chain, says always complain about bad service. Management can't fix what they don't know about.

That said, are you sure they weren't just gawking? If not, boy howdy, are they dumb.

From: [identity profile] vorona.livejournal.com


Write an icy-pink perfect letter and try to enlighten them.

From: [identity profile] woadwarrior.livejournal.com


Send a letter and also send a copy to the corp. HQ.

I had a customer service issue with them and did this. They acted upon my complaint and sent me a $50 gift card.

I'll send you the story and a copy of the letter if you're curious.

Scott

From: [identity profile] staxxy.livejournal.com


I concurr with this suggestion. I would walk the letter in to the store manager when they are there, and send the letter to corp. They may be under some mistaken impression that you qualify as "unusual" in their store (quote because I know you shop there often).

And HQ is an excellent place to CC on this type of complaint.

and YAY $50 gift card. :D

From: [identity profile] fiorituranotte.livejournal.com


I vote for two letters. One to the store manager and one to the corporate office (because they're the people are mostlikely going to get something done), and definitely mention that you know the store policy, and that you are a regular customer who will no longer be shopping there.

From: [identity profile] schmi.livejournal.com


I vote for talk to the store manager in person.

From: [identity profile] oldhalloween.livejournal.com


Before they were bought out by Kroger...in our town...if you complained about security you got a $25 gift certificate. Haven't tried it lately. :0 ) Oh wait...guess I pitched a hissy fit in Gresham and and was placated with one as well.

From: [identity profile] princekermit.livejournal.com


From my friend who is the head of security at a similar store, only with a big red dot for a logo ;-)

I would recommend that she ask to see the store manager. Not the manager on duty or the person in charge, but the Store Manager. Explain her concerns in a calm and rational manner and ask to be left alone. I would also look at her shopping style. A security officer or team that looks just at appearance are amateurs at best.

Does she shop without a cart or basket? Does she shop quickly without looking at prices? Is her hand bag excessively large or have many visible pockets? Does she avoid contact with employees? For fear of sounding sexist, "Does she shop like a man?" Women who shop like men and men who shop like women are almost always in the store with an agenda other than a straight forward shopping trip.

These are all indicators that security teams look at. One or two of these things does not a shoplifter make, however they do raise eyebrows.


From: [identity profile] cupcake-goth.livejournal.com


Hmm, that's interesting. My handbag is large-ish, but very obviously not something I can get into quickly to hide things. Today's trip didn't involve a cart or basket, because I was only getting a few items and then looking at holiday decor. As to avoiding contact with the employees -- there are several employees there that recognize me and say hello, or I wave at them.

But yes, I think I will be talking to the store manager in the next few days. Tell your friend "thank you" for me!

From: [identity profile] mahariel.livejournal.com


I had a similar problem when living in New Orleans whenever I left the city confines for the wilds of suburbia. Facial piercings = sticky fingers, you know. Or at least they do in the small minds of small city dwellers. In a more cosmopolitan area, they should know better.

Letters are good. As has already been mentioned, hand-delivered letters are better.

-Victoria

From: [identity profile] ex-fab891.livejournal.com


I'd go with a thorough and polite dressing-down of the manager. Preferably in earshot of the security goons. Fred Meyer's has the least subtle team of security people on earth, though thankfully our local one has them chasing teenagers in big pants and not me.

By the way, I tried out your ginger cookie recipe the other day and they were delicious. Thanks so much for sharing. ♥

From: [identity profile] wormtorturer.livejournal.com


Don't let them get away with harassing honest customers.

I'm still angry at Vons in San Diego on University Avenue for harassing my late mother, and wish I'd known how to stand up for her without upsetting her, too. Part of the problem in her case was they thought she was a bag lady, and their more upscale clientele didn't approve of that element. Here in Arcata it isn't a crime to shuffle along on crutches or dress badly unless you start *behaving* badly in the store. (And she was *clean* and well-behaved, just fashion-impaired with an old granny cart.)

Until Target opened in Eureka last year, the Fred Meyer in Brookings was the closest variety store. Recently I decided it might not be such a good idea to shop Target when it was pointed out how much they contribute to political candidates whose beliefs scare me. I love a bargain, but do I really want to help pay for the Governator's campaigns against firefighters, teachers, and nurses?

From: [identity profile] domestinatrix.livejournal.com


I agree with what most peeps are saying about the effectiveness of polite confrontation. One additional point: would you actually be willing to no longer shop at the otherwise useful store walking distance from your home? Realistically, it would put you out to have to avoid it, so you might as well try to help fix the issue.
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