Argh! My makeup box is at home or I could get you the name of a liner I got last time I was in Sephora. I cannot remember the name but it's a liner pencil that does.not.smudge! I get nice, dark lines from it and if I wait and don't blink for about 5 seconds after applying, it does not move. It's also not a green/black so it has a nice dark color. I will check tonight when I get home.